[has war flashbacks about the fall out boy hiatus]
what i’d fucking give to have war flashbacks...#MCRfan #also.desperate
Be a little more grateful, dude!!!!! #goes.off.to.weep.in.a.corner
[has war flashbacks about the fall out boy hiatus]
what i’d fucking give to have war flashbacks...#MCRfan #also.desperate
Be a little more grateful, dude!!!!! #goes.off.to.weep.in.a.corner
The Possible Origin of KILL
“week 10: * video reflection *
All I can say about this video is wow! It was very powerful, and definitely not for the weak hearted. I really was taken aback by it. I never really thought about the subject before, I mean I knew that homosexuals were killed for being homosexuals, but not to the extent that the video portrayed. I kind of thought that back in the 1800’s they were, like when they burned witches, but it is almost the year 2000, can we please wake up from our ignorance. It baffles me that there are so many people in the world with hate in their hearts for people they don’t even know. I cannot understand how people can treat people as less than a human being just because of their sexual preference, or color of their skin.
The video interviewed people on death row that had killed homosexuals. The way the video was done drove the point that these people were not monsters, even though the things that they had done were monstrous. Every time the filmmaker interviewed one of the killers, he would cut to a childhood picture of them, then back to the interview, then to a picture of the crime scene, and then to a picture of the victim. It showed me that there had to be a reason for their hatred and loathing of gays, because no one is born with hate in their heart. Hate is something that has been taught, it is not an inate survival skill that we need. It is a form of stupidity that penetrates our minds and will evcentually destroy us.
The most powerful image that I saw in the video was a picture of a crime scene wherte a gay person was killed. They cut to an image on the wall, the word “KILL” was written in the person’s blood. I really was moved by that, it made me shudder. All of the hate and all of the disgust was shown by that one image, it scared me. ” (my bold)Source:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010524044951/http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~sect12nj/journal.html
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50672590910/no-i-am-not-100-positive-hence-the-disclaimer
I’m posting this, because for a long time, there was this supposition that Frank was going against Gerard, and using band devices and tweets to do so. We even saw Gerard’s tweet about “love not kill” and saw it as perhaps a dig back at Frank. I even thought it possible, still do, but wanted to offer an alternative explanation.
If the content from the website I posted about yesterday is Frank’s, from Rutger’s U, and so far I haven’t found anything to suggest otherwise, then the use of the KILL that he, Gerard, and even Matt Cortez used, is part of a larger story. It’s continued use is part of an ongoing quest, project, and dilemma in which he finds himself. So, in a sense, it’s like his recent poem/letter of 5/14/13. It’s to Gerard, it’s about the relationship, but it’s also connecting larger themes over which I garner Frank feels he has no control.
The message has been so potentially important to Frank, that he has carried it over into other areas/bands. If you think this seems unlikely, please refer to the links below, They include instances were he used themes and symbols from MCR, LeATHERMOUTH, and Death Spells in a sort of web. They’re all interconnected.
I realize this is a lot of links, but most of them only contain images w/short descriptions, so they’re very quick to view:
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/47562756387/i-know-some-of-us-discussed-the-kill-issue
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/49901304117/i-guess-there-will-be-something-painted-or
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/48489712329/the-lesser-known-kill-boy-matt-cortez-mikey
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/47783020268/so-let-me-get-this-straight-there-are-four
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/49180992597/all-sorts-of-symbols
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/49049080928/there-was-less-than-an-hour-between-these-two
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/48779341637/logo-the-thursday-dove-logo-thursday-uses
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/47788285788/recycling
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/47556393950/will-you-be-the-batman-to-my-robin-i-had
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50058078717/thecoolestcatevar-nightingveil-in-his
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/49971729419/lacerationgravity-nightingveil-for-better (Part I)
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/49899911325/what-does-the-yellow-killjoy-patch-on-franks-jacket (Part II)
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50752404295/some-of-you-know-ive-been-helping-write-a-fan
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50672590910/no-i-am-not-100-positive-hence-the-disclaimer
Longer Write-Ups w/Relevance
********** READ: http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50462697514/franks-poem-letter-gerard-and-us-meeting-in (contains Frerard/MCR overlap material, to help this post make more sense)
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50476382809/frank-gerard-b-assmaster-and-itunes
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50433935806/alcohol-sobriety-gerard-frank-and-personal
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50274026533/gerard-frank-god-now-and-the-catcher-in-the-rye (Part I)
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50280916489/nightingveil-gerard-frank-god-now-and-the (Part II)
http://nightingveil.tumblr.com/post/50379024002/i-had-to-reconstruct-this-because-someone-decided
(I may rename this one “How to Lose Faith in Your Dominant”)
Special thanks to Tifosaurus for her message, and request for this to be a discussion write-up.
i see how this could be all possible and most likely is but i can’t help being bothered by Gerard’s sudden changing it into LOVE no kill… like back then when they were carrying the message as KILL it was it, it was giving that message to people and now he’s morphed it into that….??? well…
And even if all was this way…. why would Frank write NO LOVE on his tee, i mean.. this is all weird with these two these days :(
It makes me uncomfortable :-/
so i was wondering why frank looked so alike to gerard on skate and surf and i realized they have the same sunglasses
although these are pretty damn common (i think the dude behind frank is wearing them too) its no secret they tend to buy similar style clothing or borrow from each other. its probably just a coincidence though
Actually THIS sentence along with I WILL WAIT FOR YOU… my heart’s breaking in a sort of good way… #FrankGerardLove
Aw thank you sweetheart, yep,i always say google translator’s shit :D i personally NEVER translate anything with that, but when it comes to azbuka, i’m literally LOST so that was my only option :D
I feel bad for my lovely Russians now, like seriously, what google makes of the sentences, that’s one big fail, ugh…..
Thank you for translating it for me, honey ;) ….oh i wish i spoke Russian, seriously , cuz i ADORE i freaking adore Russia and Russians and just, awww my babies :3 much love, btw!
THANKS again <3
Honey, just, you know, times are hard sometimes. Since this is not a fiction but a freaking weird life, it’s not easy.
You know how it is in that song “Nobody said it was easy, it’s such a shame for us to part… nobody said it was easy, no one ever said it would be this hard… Oh take me back to the start…” you know, that happens in EVERY relationship, relationship, and especially those with the one who’s THE ONE for you are a rollercoaster ride, cuz it’s them with whom you’re supposed to learn something huge in life….that’s why it’s so hard…butin Frank’s words again (omg his poems help me so much with analyses and stuff) But we try. And we fail. So we try some more. — i mean, oh my fuck, THAT’S EXACTLY what their rship is about…
But you know, gotta use Frank’s words again…. remember these words and with this go on in believing in them, in believeing in Frank+Gerard, cuz he believes in them he said:
I BELIEVE IN US. I WILL WAIT FOR YOU. SEDIMENT-ALLY YOURS. YOU ARE MINE MY DARLING. AND THE WORLD, YES, THE WORLD SHALL BE OURS. TOGETHER WE SHALL SEE WHAT TIME IS MADE OF. OUR LOVE NEVER DIES.
And these words i keep in mind when i feel like this is hard to take, dunno….thought this would maybe help you… Cheer up, darling ;) Frank’s got hope, so I do too….. like, get ready for this shitty situation to be going on like this (and getting worse) maybe for a year, two, maybe more…..
But things will eventually be good again ;)
Oh nothing special hon, dunno, maybe there are theories out there on that one, but as for me, i’ve never really thought about it much…
I just figure that dunno, maybe when he’s holding a mic or playing or god knows what, it’s more comfortable for him to be wearing it on the other hand? just guessing here…i have no idea.
I mean, it’s weird with wedding bands, some people don’t ever wear it at all cuz it makes them feel uncomfortable, like they’re not used to wearing rings and shit, so maybe even if F didn’t wear it at all…i wouldn’t be too disturbed,
as for Gerard? if HE took it off, it would be a sigh of somehting going on for me….dunno.
But i think it’s not really all that important when it comes to Frankie ;) no worries here
Oh god, hon, i haven’t seen it, or if i have i wasn’t paying too much attention, i mean, i’m pretty much trying to stay away from Gerard’s shit these days cuz pretty much of what he does these days pisses me off and i just don’t need that, ugh
but from what you’ve said, uh, you might be right honey, the “to BLEED” part is interesting hmm…. like, what the hell…and what does it mean, is it connected with some article from the issue, or did Gerard write it over that , or what exactly does it look like hmm? ….
If this is true then omg….. i REALLY fucking hope he’s NOT going solo, cuz for me that’d be Gerard going all pop and seriously??? when Gerard and ‘solo’ is in one sentence all i can think of is his FAILED PERFORMANCE with Deadmou5 on i heart radio, how lost and awkward and shy and embarrassed and old and just plain weird he looked up on that stage, like what the hell does the dude do there, like, maaan, where have you dug him out of ?! like :’( i felt like crying i mean, it was physically PAINFUL for me to be watching that……. it felt like Gerard’s early high school years, once again he was that weirdo, but apart from that, nobody understood him now, like, he didn’t have his guys, those other weirdos, he was there, all alone , trying to be cool….
And that was the saddest thing about it.
That now……he actually thinks he’s cool…. And i’m not sure how that makes me feel…. The performance just like his current attitude make him look totally OUT OF PLACE. And it’s heartbreaking to watch. Like, he’s come a long road and now he’s throwing everything he is and has ever been away just for the cool fucks, just cuz he wants to be one of them and just, like he’s NOT REALLY okay with who he is, all he’s been telling us feels like it’s lies, not surprising, but not pleasing either….
I can’t really keep following him, it literally breaks my heart, i’m trying, okay, i mean, i believe that he’s actually GONNA COME BACK TO HIS SENSES…but until that happens, i’ll try to remember him as the perfect fucking weirdo cutie pie ……. i’m sure our Gee’s gonna come back….we just gotta wait.
in Frank’s words, Keep the faith xo
PS: (in Frank’s poem he said “I BELIEVE IN US. I WILL WAIT FOR YOU.” and if he believes in them and is willing to wait for Gerard, I AM TOO.)
Edit: “ “Bleed” is a border that you leave out for print :)” oh boy and now i’m even more confused … but why is it in quotations then? like, this anon is saying that there are some words “to bleed” i literally don’t get this like, im so lost :-O help
Awwww, freaking hell, N, you lovely baby :3 thank you so much, ooooh maaan, i’d hug you sooo damn tight right now, awww, :’)
Thank you so much for these super kind words, MUCH LOVE, honey!!
